There is a great editoral in the Chicago Tribune today by Clarence Page:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opini on/chi-oped0523pagemay23,1,5905294.colum n?coll=chi-opinionfront-hed

It touches on the torture love fest at the last Republican Presidential Debate. Then goes into the right wing fantasy that some how "24" is really how the world works. The most important part is the following (I am no good at HTML, but this is the best part):

"Here's a real-life scenario that the presidential candidates should hear about: Last November, Army Brig. Gen. Patrick Finnegan, dean of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, flew to Southern California to meet with the creative team behind "24."

Accompanied by three military and FBI interrogators, he described how the show actually was undermining the academy's classroom lessons with the false message that torture is a jim-dandy idea in the real world.

As investigative journalist Jane Mayer reported in the New Yorker in February, the meeting discussed how the show's ticking-time-bomb scenario makes a thrilling hour on TV but is virtually unknown in real life.

And it would be a big help, the dean told the Hollywood folks, if "24" at least would sometimes show how torture produces false information and actually damages counter-terrorism efforts.

Entertainment Weekly reported that the show's top producer, Joel Surnow, has decided to shy away from torture, not because it is an immoral or impractical technique but because it has been overused as a device in his show. That's showbiz."

Even the Dean of the US Military Academy at West Point is trying to get Wingnuts to come live in the reality based world.